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Send us Fan MailWho are the top 10 werewolves in pop culture? Join us as we reveal our spine-tingling list and explore what makes each lycanthropic character unforgettable. From the Dragonborn in Skyrim's companions…
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0:00Hayden:FOR THE EMPEROR.
0:06Tom:Nice.
0:20Hayden:That mess makes you feel dizzy Really.
0:24Tom:Hello, Welcome to Entertain this. It's a podcast. It's about movies, TV shows and video games. My name is Tom. With me I have Mitch and my name is Hayden Bleh.
0:40Hayden:Bleh, it feels like he's right there.
0:45Tom:His spirit is around us. Yes, today's episode, we are talking about the best werewolves of all time. Sure, some of us are.
0:56Hayden:I was going to do it the opposite direction, but yeah , we can do that.
0:58Tom:We're doing vampires.
0:59Hayden:Yeah, we can do werewolves.
1:00Tom:Oh, we announced werewolves, we'll do werewolves. We're doing the werewolves, we can do werewolves. Oh, we announced werewolves, we'll do werewolves. We're doing the were-wolves. And we'll be talking about Brothers the.
1:12Hayden:Imperium For the Emperor? Yes, as Warhammer 40,000. Space Marines 2.
1:20Tom:Or when we play and we're playing as the Heretics.
1:22Hayden:For the Emperor Wrong team For Chaos, or when we play and we're playing as the heretics For the emperor Wrong team For chaos. Ah, yes, yes, oh, it got dark in here.
1:31Tom:Yeah, it's a little better. I'm just kind of poking my eyes for a second. Okay, it was too bright. But before we jump into this episode, social media Mitch, entertainthispodcastcom.
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2:11Tom:Hey, you did it though. Werewolves. As we start to make our way into spooky season, we thought we'd lean into it in this episode with our top 10 werewolves, and then next week will be top 10 vampires.
2:28Hayden:We're doing characters, not necessarily movies, so this could be from movies, tv or games. Games, games, games. Unfortunately I didn't think to put any buttons in here that are spooky, so we'll just go with this.
2:44Tom:Now the spookiest button.
2:46Hayden:My name is hayden, all right, tom, such uh your list is I have 10 oh, you got, you got 10. I've managed to squeeze out 10 okay, because you said you had seven.
2:58Tom:I was gonna say it was a little harder than I thought it would be and not trying to just like be all from one show or from one fandom or something. I tried to be across the board. So my number 10 is the Dragonborn in Skyrim. When you do the companions quest, you get to be a werewolf.
3:17Hayden:Oh, I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
3:19Tom:It's pretty awesome. It's way cooler than being a vampire.
3:22Hayden:Are you beholden to the moon and all that?
3:25Tom:No, you can morph when you want.
3:27Hayden:Oh, okay.
3:28Tom:Which is way cooler, yeah, but everyone tries to kill you the second you do it. Oh okay, even people who are with you as followers. Once you go werewolf, they're like what's up, we're out. They're like Drawing swords. It's like get out. It's like we don't care that he's the dragonborn and a werewolf. They instantly get their pitchforks and flames yeah you can like eat people and like blood's going everywhere.
3:51Hayden:Oh really that's pretty cool.
3:53Tom:Pretty awesome. And then, like you, you know, wake up naked somewhere like ah All right.
3:59Hayden:Well, my number 10 is Seraphine from American Werewolf in Paris. Oh the girl, okay the good-looking girl that, like she , tries to jump off the Eiffel Tower and he goes and catches her. Ah but I have to say I like the part where, like he wakes up in her bed and she's like here, hold this, puts her hands, puts his hands on her chest, and then he's just like, yeah, this is kind of nice. And then he looks over in the mirror and sees like her dead mom or something like that in the mirror.
4:32Tom:What.
4:32Hayden:Well, remember, because, like I, haven't seen the movie.
4:35Tom:Oh, you haven't seen this one.
4:36Hayden:I haven't seen this one oh. I mean it's kind of like American Werewolf, but uh, basically in this I don't know if to say I haven't seen american world from london, but in this one, if you're a werewolf, any of the victims that you've killed you can like see them as ghosts.
4:51Tom:Yeah, that's the same way in american world from london okay, well, that's what in this one?
4:55Hayden:because he got bit by her or see, no, he got bit by a friend of hers and but he thinks that he was bit by her but he sees like the ghost of her mom in the mirror, but then when he looks over she's not there, but the seraphine, she can see him, but she's pretty cool because she's like a nurse as well that works at the hospital but she's also taking care of her father down in the basement. He's like later on turns into a werewolf. That's like missing legs. And Father down in the basement , he's like, later on turns into a werewolf. It's like missing legs and he's crawling after this guy. It's pretty creepy. But yeah, she's my number 10.
5:31Tom:Okay, okay, my number nine is Remus Lupin.
5:35Hayden:Who's?
5:35Tom:that Professor Lupin from Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.
5:38Hayden:I've never seen Harry Potter.
5:39Tom:Really.
5:40Hayden:I've only seen the first one. Really yeah, and I only saw that because we did trivia.
5:46Tom:And you had to watch it. I did. You didn't get to the part where, like the third one, where it got edgy, because they were, like you know, teenagers now.
5:52Hayden:Oh, no, yeah, I only saw the first one. After that it just got way more adult and more off the rails as they went, because you know I mean what's the?
6:06Tom:He's a professor, a member of the Order of the Phoenix that you know, a guardian against Voldemort, or he who must not be named.
6:14Hayden:That's why he's a good guy.
6:18Tom:Harry Potter come to die. He is a good guy, yes, but he was attacked early on in his life by the next werewolf on my list. Okay, so I was going to turn to a werewolf, and then he was keeping it hidden because it's magic. Okay, snape was making him a potion that he could drink, so he still retained his own consciousness when he transformed as a werewolf.
6:42Hayden:Should he go bloodlust crazy?
6:44Tom:No, he wouldn't. If he took it, he just locked himself in his office and he'd just be curled up in a dog mat until the moon went away and he could go back to being a human again. But actually at the end of the movie he had not taken it and it got real.
7:00Hayden:Okay, my number nine is Larry Talbot and not the original Larry Talbot from the original Wolfman, but this is from the Wolfman the 2010 film.
7:09Tom:Yeah, but he's Del Toro.
7:10Hayden:Yeah, I have him at number five okay, well, I like this because I thought it was really good as far as like the CGI and then I can't remember. I know in there's a scene where he's in the asylum, whatever, and they're experimenting this guy thinks he's a werewolf.
7:29Tom:Look at him, he's crazy. And everybody's like ah. And he's like you're all going to die. And then the moon. And he's like ah, and bones start breaking and he starts to transform and they're like oh God, he wasn't lying.
7:41Hayden:Well, yeah, that's why I like they're laughing at it.
7:43Tom:Rip off the dude's head. Yeah, and throw it out the window.
7:47Hayden:I want to say that for that scene they actually used like part practical and part yeah.
7:51Tom:It was a real werewolf. They got to do the movie.
7:54Hayden:I'm saying that they use practical makeup and stuff along with the CGI to. You know, I thought that was pretty cool because nowadays most everything is CGI.
8:02Tom:And that's a slight. I guess you could call it a counter-argument to a lot of stuff the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit trilogy. You watch Lord of the Rings when they're doing the fight stuff. Those are real people in costumes.
8:15Hayden:Yeah.
8:16Tom:And it looks fantastic.
8:17Hayden:Yeah.
8:20Tom:And then you watch the.
8:21Hayden:Hobbit and it's like this is just CGI nonsense. Yeah, I mean, cgi is good for some things, but you know, like the dragon, you're not going to make a practical-looking dragon and make it.
8:29Tom:No, malticore the dragon, who's hiding somewhere in Alaska. You know his agent hasn't returned any calls to appear in film.
8:38Hayden:CGI has its place, but it needs. You know like it's important, but it needs.
8:42Tom:Practical effects done good.
8:45Hayden:Yeah.
8:46Tom:It's impossible to beat it with CGI.
8:49Hayden:Because there's just an aspect of realism that you can't get with CGI, no matter how good it is. You can kind of tell. No matter how good it is. You can see, there's something different. The next one, oh wait, your turn. Your different. The next one, oh wait, your turn.
9:06Tom:My number eight is Fenrir Greyback from the Harry Potter films and books. Again, I don't know he's the bad werewolf, okay, but he gets his comeuppance at the end of the movie. Someone kills him and launches him out of a window. I think it's been a hot minute since I've seen it, but he was like you know, they kind of build him up In the books. He's a lot more like oh crap, it's that guy Like that dude's a werewolf and a wizard.
9:31Hayden:Okay.
9:31Tom:And he's fully leaned into it. He looks like a werewolf most of the time, even though he hasn't morphed. He's got the big pronounced canines, the facial hair thing. He looks like a mess, but he's also a wizard, so it's a cool hybrid of wizard-werewolf.
9:48Hayden:Okay.
9:49Tom:And he has a wand with a silencer on it.
9:51Hayden:Alright no.
9:52Tom:I'm kidding.
9:54Hayden:Sure, why not From the?
9:54Tom:Key Peele, skit A wand with a silencer. Why? I ask again, why?
10:04Hayden:Well, my next one on the list, my number eight, is ellie myers from the movie cursed. Have you ever seen that? It's got a christina ricci.
10:11Tom:She, uh I might have seen it, but it doesn't ring a bell right now basically, she, she's doing something.
10:17Hayden:She's doing something . She's driving down the road and , like this, what she thought was a dog runs out in front of her. So she, like, swerves, and then she ends up crashing down in the woods. Well then, after she crashed, she's trying to get out of her car and something bites her on her leg, and then, of course, it goes away because people show up with flashlights trying to help her.
10:35Tom:And the modern-day equivalent of torches and pitchforks. Hey, what's that there? There's something prowling around here.
10:45Hayden:Well, they show up, so the werewolf runs off and Christina Ricci's character she gets better and stuff, and then she's slowly trying to figure out, as she's turning and stuff like that, what's going on. It's pretty cool.
10:55Tom:How's the transformation?
10:57Hayden:Christina Ricci's kind of hot. It's really good. The only thing is, towards the end they show the whole body of a werewolf and it's another character and you're like, eh, because it starts talking like normal, like the female character.
11:12Tom:Oh, no, no, no. So it's kind of weird, no wrong , but it looks good.
11:18Hayden:It's just with the way they do it. It's kind of cheesy when she starts talking like a normal female character.
11:23Tom:It's like of cheesy. When she starts talking like a normal female character, it's like, oh my God. It's like, hey, how are you? It's like what Exactly? I'm not scared anymore. I'm not scared anymore.
11:29Hayden:Everything changed but her vocal cords.
11:33Tom:Like I pissed myself when I saw you. My pee has now been sucked back up because I'm no longer frightened.
11:37Hayden:Yeah, I mean she's kind of hot. It's a good character. It's a good character. It's got a what's the guy from Zombieland not? Jesse Eisenberg yeah, he's in it as well. It's like her little brother so she's like trying to protect him and stuff. It's pretty cool. Okay, it's not a bad movie not the best, but it's not bad.
11:57Tom:I'd say I'm gonna watch it, but we both know I'd be lying yes, we know my next one is Derek Hale from Teen.
12:04Hayden:Wolf, he's my number six.
12:06Tom:Okay, he's my number seven, so we're roughly around there.
12:10Hayden:I've never seen Teen Wolf probably until the last couple months, like the TV series Me, and my wife started watching it because she likes the horror in the light sense. Light horror, yeah, tv.
12:24Tom:Lightly seasoned horror. Exactly, she's not like Emerald Glossy hitting it. Light horror. Yeah, tv, lightly seasoned horror. Exactly, she's not, like you know, emerald Glossy hitting it with the horror going bam, bam. Just you know the whole tub is getting poured in there.
12:33Hayden:She likes horror monsters. She just doesn't like them to be scary.
12:36Tom:Yeah, like he's a werewolf and then they just keep going and she's like okay, but it's just like okay, but yeah, derek Hale, he's played by Tyler Hoechlin, yeah who plays?
12:47Hayden:Superman.
12:48Tom:That's what I figured you would know. Yeah, because I started watching Teen Wolf when it came out. I thought it was a cool show. I liked it.
12:53Hayden:Yeah, it's pretty good.
12:54Tom:I watched like the first, like four or five seasons .
12:59Hayden:I think we're on season three right now.
13:03Tom:Is that the one with like all the super alphas? Yep, yeah, and it's a pack of alphas. Yeah, and then their main guy's blind until he turns into a werewolf and then he can see again. Yes, and it's like uh-oh.
13:15Hayden:Yeah, I was actually going to review that because I feel like we've been watching it .
13:18Tom:Yeah, I've watched a lot of that show. I'd like to do an episode about that. We could do that next time. Okay, we could do a Teen Wolf breakdown of stuff.
13:25Hayden:All right.
13:26Tom:What was your number?
13:27Hayden:My number seven was Will Randall from Wolf, which is Jack Nicholson.
13:32Tom:Mm-hmm.
13:33Hayden:It's kind of like a love story, like a love horror, because he falls in love with I forget the character's name, but it's Michelle Pfeiffer, mm-hmm, but he's like slowly turning into a wolf and but he's in love with her and doesn't want to hurt her. But I don't want to think there's a. I think there's another character that's trying to hurt her and he has, to like, protect her I have not seen this movie I've only seen it once, but I do remember the character very well and I like the. I like jack nicholson's portrayals like he's like a, a book, but he turns into a werewolf after getting attacked in upstate Vermont or something like that.
14:08Tom:Nothing good happens in Vermont Ever.
14:12Hayden:Yeah, I like his character in that one, anyways.
14:15Tom:My next is Scott McCall from Teen Wolf.
14:18Hayden:I didn't include him because I got Derek Hill.
14:21Tom:I mean, he is the lead of the show. Yeah, and it's kind of funny I he is the lead of the show.
14:24Hayden:Yeah.
14:25Tom:And it's kind of funny. Like you know, I like watching the struggle of like the powers.
14:29Hayden:Oh yeah.
14:29Tom:Where like he gets bitten, and he's just running around in the woods at night and he's like Buck Day. He doesn't know what the hell's going on. He doesn't know what to do. He's a teenager, he's got you know, has asthma, and then all of a sudden he's a superhero. I don't know what to do and his buddy's just like. We got to get this together.
14:46Hayden:Well see, the only thing is like between him and Derek Hill.
14:49Tom:To me, derek Hill looks like a werewolf like, in a sense, you know that darker presence.
14:55Hayden:But Scott McCall. He almost looks like some kind of like nerd Neanderthal kind of thing with the way they do the prosthetic across his forehead.
15:03Tom:Yeah, Some of them like eh.
15:06Hayden:He just looks kind of strange. I mean he's a werewolf, he's got the nails and the teeth and all that, but just like the prosthetic around his nose and forehead looks like a Neanderthal he's like in, like werewolf puberty where he's like playing. That was cool.
15:21Tom:And that one kid who just looks like a dude who played.
15:27Hayden:Speedy or not Speedy, but Red Arrow yeah on Arrow, or was it Roy Harper?
15:31Tom:Is that his name? Roy Harper yeah, yeah, who played him? He's just not having it. He's like you're on drugs. He's like there's no other way.
15:46Hayden:It's like you sucked. And then what kills me is when he finds out he's still. It's like no, no, no, I'm gonna be one, make me one bite me. He's like dude, come on, come on. Yeah, it's like what the heck is wrong with you kid. But you know, it explains a little later too, so how far did you get you're?
15:55Tom:you're on season three, so he already went through the. We're like midway through season three, the kanima thing, where he was like a lizard, yeah , and then they broke it, then he became an actual werewolf yeah, but then he left the show. Yeah, then he disappeared he finally got to be a wolf and he leaves the show he's like got what he wanted, took off it's like all right, cool, I'm gonna go do other stuff yeah, I was wondering if he comes back, but evidently not uh, no, I don't think he's actually come back for it. He they talk about it, but I don't think he's come back for any episodes that I remember all right.
16:26Hayden:Well, like I said, my number six was derrick hills, if you want to go into your number five my number five was lawrence talbot from the 2010 werewolf okay. Well then, I'll go to my number five, which is van helsing that's my number one oh okay, well, sorry, sorry about that, but yeah, van helsing is uh youman.
16:43Tom:Jackhuman.
16:44Hayden:When he turns into the black werewolf, when he's fighting With the longer hair fighting super renaissance Dracula. Yeah.
16:51Tom:Because you find out, van Helsing is actually the angel Gabriel and he's with the right hand of God. Something like that, but he has memory issues because he's been on Earth forever and him and Dracula met 200-something years ago.
17:04Hayden:And Van Helsing killed him, then yeah, well, see , like to me, I feel like that CGI was done well that was perfect.
17:10Tom:That's he.
17:11Hayden:That is the still the best werewolf ever on screen well, because it fit where it wasn't like a Dracula human looking, dracula fighting a werewolf.
17:19Tom:You know it fit together it looked like a dude that turned into a super wolf yeah werewolf man from hell.
17:26Hayden:Because those werewolves were jacked.
17:27Tom:They were huge. And then what's his face? Why does it smell like wet dog in here? I?
17:33Hayden:forget what's that guy's name. I can't remember his name.
17:37Tom:I can't remember his name.
17:39Hayden:Yeah.
17:39Tom:But he plays like the fry guy. He's like I'm a fry, I can swear whatever I want, damn it. And he plays Faramir in Lord of the.
17:48Hayden:Rings. That's what most people know. Yes, yes, what's your number four?
17:51Tom:My number four is David from American Werewolf in London.
17:57Hayden:Okay, I haven't seen that one, so he's like the main character though. Right yeah.
18:05Tom:So it starts with him and Jack and of course they're walking where they shouldn't be and you know they're like stay out of the movies at night. And there's like the slaughtered sheep's head pub with the creepy locals and they're just like you know, don't go. And then they leave and they're like people like you know doing the Jenny Fleck thing.
18:18Hayden:Yeah.
18:19Tom:And there are people in the bar like hear him, like they hear the wolf and him and his buddy are walking. He goes, it's getting closer and it's like it's just a dog or something. It sounds like a wolf and like the people in the bar are like we need to go and help them and they're like what are you nuts? And then they're on their own. Yeah, the werewolf shows up like takes David out, like him apart, and they're just showing it like this dude's getting it annihilated. And then they show up and they shoot the werewolf and then it's like a naked, dead dude all of a sudden, because he morphed back yeah and then he, like, wakes up in the hospital. He's all messed up, he's covered in blood and the next day 100
18:54Tom:healed, okay. Then you know, of course, you know, nurse takes him home brown , okay, and this is the one where he's changing in the floor . Yeah, where he's screaming because it hurts so much and he's burning from it. His skin's ripping off and he's watching his hands elongate and the sound of the bones breaking .
19:14Hayden:Yeah, because I've seen that transformation thing.
19:16Tom:That's probably the best transformation.
19:18Hayden:Yeah, especially with all the, it was all practical.
19:21Tom:Because in Van Helsing, where he's like, his face starts to elongate and then he just rips off his skin, it's like boom, Superman, yeah, this was like it looked like hell was happening to him. It looked like it hurt so much.
19:36Hayden:Well, my number four is Scott Howard.
19:38Tom:That's my number three from Teen Wolf. The movie Michael J Fox Basketball playing werewolf.
19:47Hayden:Back, flips on top of the van as he's going down the road oh yeah, where?
19:50Tom:he's playing surfing USA and he's on top of the van. He's like give me a kick up here and his eyes turn red. He goes, here you go, sir.
19:57Hayden:Well, I told my wife I was like we're watching the TV shows. Once we get done with the TV show, I need to show you the movie. She's like there's a movie 1985 , Michael J. Fox yeah, she's never seen it, so I was like we've got to watch the movie after this. So I like how, when he starts to transform for the first time, he runs into the bathroom, opens the door and his dad's just standing there all and he's with glasses on. He's just like. I guess it's time we talked no hiding it anymore.
20:27Tom:Yeah, what's your number four. My number four was Dave from Magnolia, so my number three was also Scott Howard from Teen Wolf.
20:33Hayden:Okay, makes sense, makes sense.
20:36Tom:What was your?
20:36Hayden:number three Lucian from Underworld. Okay, Okay. Because I mean they have like I mean he's the main bad guy played by Michael Sheen, but he's very like he's a bad guy, but they make him play out like he's actually trying to just do what's best for, like the werewolves. And I thought those werewolves were pretty like they were a lot of CGI but they were very convincing as far as, like I guess, a underworld kind of the amalgamation of underworld werewolf men. Yes, Because I mean, they were like a hit squad that could turn it whenever they wanted. Because, like I remember, there was one scene where, like the police are chasing them down and they're little humans and they run into a building and as soon as they get inside and close the
21:22Hayden:doors, they just, they just rip off their jackets and start changing into the werewolves, and then, when the police bust in, they just get ripped apart.
21:28Tom:It's like oh no, we done. Messed up, Sarge.
21:33Hayden:But they also have a I forget which underworld it is, but they have a movie where basically you find out why he is the way he is, as far as wanting to overthrow the vampires, because as a werewolf back years and you know, centuries ago he was basically enslaved and kept as a slave by the vampires. So it kind of makes sense on his character.
21:51Tom:He's out there for some vengeance. Yeah, pretty much Time to. It's like you vampires, you pointy teeth bums, you got to go . My number two is the original Lawrence Talbot from the original Wolfman movie. Played by Lon Chaney Jr.
22:07Hayden:I just think back to the Abbott and Costello, where he's like plunging at him and they just move and look at the other thing. Yeah, or?
22:14Tom:he's just like the slapstick of it, or he's like he changes on the phone. He's growling at him and he's like don't growl at me. It's like would you put your dog on the phone.
22:28Hayden:Yeah, but I understand having the original on there.
22:31Tom:The OG. I mean the transformation that was groundbreaking.
22:36Hayden:Special effects you see his hand and see the hair continue to grow.
22:40Tom:And then his face. He opens his eyes and he's ripping stuff apart. People were dying in that movie . Yeah, he dies in that movie. He does. Yeah, his dad kills him.
22:49Hayden:Oh, okay, I didn't know he died.
22:50Tom:Because when he shows up from America back to England , his dad's a knight, not like a knight knight like he was swinging a sword or whatever. He's been knighted, yes, sir John, played by Claude Rains. And then his dad thinks like there's something wrong with him because he got bit, but he's fine. And then he ends up in the beginning of the movie. He buys like a walking stick with a silver wolf's head on it, yeah, and then you know gets bit goes through the whole deal. But he gives the stick to his dad and he's like going to leave and like disappear. And then he changes again because he sees the pentagram on the girl he likes his hand. So she's like running off. He's going after her. The whole town's looking for him because a lot of people have
23:30Tom:died now at this point they're not having it. And then he attacks the girl. His dad gets there first and he clubs the Wolfman to death with the silver stick and kills his own son.
23:43Hayden:For some reason I was thinking he took the wolf head king and melted it down into a bullet, but that must be something else I'm thinking of.
23:51Tom:Yeah, why does that sound so familiar?
23:53Hayden:I feel like it happened in something that I've watched.
23:54Tom:I feel like it happened in some movie where they melted down it. Isn't that another werewolf movie where they have to do that .
24:00Hayden:I'm pretty sure it does, but I just can't remember where it was from.
24:03Tom:Because I think they only get. Isn't that the one where the wolfman's coming on the bridge or something like shooting with rockets or something stupid?
24:08Hayden:No, that's Silver Bullet.
24:12Tom:Isn't the kid in a wheelchair or something?
24:13Hayden:Yeah, that's Silver Bullet oh okay. But that's not from the same thing, or maybe it is I, or maybe it is, I don't know. If you know, write to us. Either way. My number two, reverend Lowe, from Silver Bullet, because that was the first movie I watched, like the first time I had a date in middle school. That's the movie we rented, we watched Silver Bullet, and it's still one of my favorite movies because it's a pretty convincing , you know, as far as, like at the time, horror movie and the werewolf was pretty creepy because, like there's one scene where the town has there's been, like you said, enough people have been died or have died, so the town comes, like looking for him in the dark. Well, they wander into this like foggy, swampy area and as
24:59Hayden:they're wandering through, like the, the mist and stuff is like almost chest high, so you can see, you know, from chest up. You see the people walking around with their pitchfork bat or baseball bat. There's one where he's like, as they're walking through, you just see a hand come up and grab him by the chest and just rip his chest out as he pulls him down. There's another one where they go to swing the baseball bat and he just grabs the bat and bursts it.
25:20Tom:So you're telling me these people had not seen the second Jurassic Park movie to stay out of tall grass fog things where raptors, werewolves , vampires, deadly llamas perhaps could hide, but like you were talking about.
25:36Hayden:there is one scene where the kid in the wheelchair is on the bridge and in the distance he sees something just at the other end of the bridge and in the distance, like he sees something like just at the other end of the bridge and he can't make out what it is. But then as it starts to walk out of the bridge, which you only see like bits and pieces, sort of like a whole werewolf, as he starts to walk towards it, you see like the mouth or something like that, it shows on screen. Well, the kid's like fiddling with the firework. He launches it and hits him in the eye. You just hear this loud roar. Then the kid is, like I said, in a wheelchair. It's a special wheelchair built by Gary Busey. It's like half motorcycle.
26:12Hayden:He goes flying down the road in the next second.
26:15Tom:Pretty much With a werewolf chasing him who just got his eye taken out by fireworks.
26:20Hayden:This kid, whose legs are basically paralyzed, climbs up like the lattice of the outside of the building back into his bedroom window and locks the window. Yeah, and then they find out that it's the Reverend, because the next day they go and talk to the, his sister goes to talk to the Reverend.
26:39Tom:And his eyes.
26:39Hayden:And he's got like a patch over his eye.
26:41Tom:So then everybody's like and then he's like uh-oh.
26:46Hayden:Yeah, but I mean it's pretty good, Especially the end and like he comes bursting through a window and Gary Busey's in the house and Gary Busey's like telling his kids there's no such thing.
26:57Tom:And then he's like there is, or he there is, or he's like I gotta stop drinking straight steak sauce, my name's Gary Busey.
27:05Hayden:Alright. How am I doing today, gary Busey? You're doing great, gary Busey alright.
27:08Tom:I'm gonna keep it up. My number one is Van Helsing okay, no, yeah it, just it's the best one yeah he looks the best . Everything about it was great and the whole reason is so he can fight Super Dracula.
27:24Hayden:Well, my number one is my favorite. It's called Klaus, which technically he's a hybrid.
27:31Tom:Is this from?
27:32Hayden:From the originals and Vampire Diaries.
27:34Tom:I was about to say he's going to be from something I haven't watched.
27:37Hayden:Yeah, from the originals he starts off as the original vampire. His family are the original vampires, but he was actually a bastard child and so he's actually part werewolf as well. But his mom knew witchcraft. She cast a spell that makes them all vampires. But she did something to him that suppressed his werewolf side, but then later on he unlocks it. There's one scene where he's trying to take over New Orleans, because that's the town he likes living in. Well, his old protege is the king of New Orleans, basically at the time, and I say king, he just leads it. It's like modern day. But he tells all the vampires if you want to follow him, go ahead. So he stands there Because he's the original, he's stronger,
28:26Hayden:he's older, he's more powerful. He stands there, puts the coin on the ground and says whoever picks this up gets to live. And so nobody picks it up. They send them all after him and he just starts beating Artwell. They start beating him up and he like lures them, because there's probably 30 or 40 vampires he lures them into, basically funnels them into a hallway. Then, after they beat him down, he starts transforming into his werewolf side. You just hear a growl as he's been beaten down. He just looks up and his eyes have changed. Then he just starts ripping them apart, biting them, tearing out their throats and stuff Jesus. Then eventually, the king of the vampires picks up the coin so he'll stop killing everybody.
29:06Tom:It's like, okay, all right, the coin has been lifted. Well, because in this series, Please stop murdering everyone.
29:12Hayden:In this series. Werewolf bites can be lethal to vampires and as a way to counteract, I guess as a balance , the only way to get a, I guess to heal from it as a vampire, is to use his blood, the original's blood.
29:34Tom:So yeah, he's cornered the market on dishing out death.
29:38Hayden:He's pretty cool. He starts off as the pure villain in the Vampire Diaries series and then in the originals he becomes the good guy because he starts having a family and then everybody keeps coming after his family and he wants to protect them. He becomes a pretty cool character. My family, I want my family back Basically in Vampire Diaries. He's the villain In the originals. He's trying to atone for everything he's done In the Vampire Diaries. Yeah, pretty much.
30:05Tom:Everything I did in the other show. That was bad. He's my favorite character. He's bad. Yeah, I think that concludes our top ten werewolves. And now we must go to our view. For the Imperium. Welcome to the.
30:25Hayden:Emperor. We must go into our view For the Imperium, welcome to the war . Close enough, just imagine bigger explosions.
30:37Tom:Yes, the Emperor protects.
30:40Hayden:So, tom, tell us, what do you like about Space Marines?
30:45Tom:All of it.
30:47Hayden:I tried to get him to play Helldivers and he wouldn't buy it on a PC. So now he gets to experience what I feel is an even better version.
30:55Tom:Of Helldivers 2? Yeah, space Marines, space Warhammer 40,000, space Marines 2.
31:04Hayden:I mean so far I've really enjoyed it. You've mostly played PvP. I've played a little bit of the campaign and the side mission kind of stuff.
31:11Tom:I haven't done any of the side missions yet. I'm kind of saving it.
31:15Hayden:Okay.
31:15Tom:Because I know it's there. I don't want to just burn through it all at one time Because I haven't finished the campaign either. I got to the part where I've only done the first two of the campaign and the first two of the side missions when you got to get the rail gun thing online and you shoot the big flying lobster in space, yes, and then you rescue the guy and then his ship takes off and then for some reason that crash lands because , god forbid, anything works in in the future. So it's like saddle up. We're going out there after. I'm like cutting tyranids in half with a chainsaw sword and ripping off their arms and impaling them, or doing the godzilla, where he grabs the dude by the jaws and rips his
31:56Tom:head in half, yeah, and I'm just like whoa and it, and it's so graphic oh, it's mind but great it's very, very graphic. but it's awesomely graphic Because I like how it's violence .
32:07Hayden:When the smaller little tyranids jump at you, you just like grab them. Boom yeah, you either grab them by the tail and slam them down.
32:14Tom:And their heads explode from the air.
32:16Hayden:Grab them by the throat and Take your chainsaw sword, just cut him in half.
32:21Tom:There's one. He jumped and I sidestepped and caught him with the sword in midair, so he's just getting cut in half with it. It's just like and then, you know, blood just goes. It's all over your power armor, as you're just beating down little tyranids.
32:33Hayden:And I knew there was a lot to Warhammer, but I didn't know. It was so cool.
32:37Tom:Yeah, I didn't know how cool it was.
32:40Hayden:These are basically just like space knights, with different sects that have different beliefs on things, different chapters.
32:46Tom:Well, you have the 20 legions, the 20 original legions, and then you got they're like the first foundings of their houses I don't know if it's called houses or chapter whatever and then you have the secondary group, like the Black Templars that you like to be yes , Because I started out playing as the White Scars.
33:07Hayden:Yeah, real Black Templars.
33:09Tom:The only reason I picked White Scars I wanted white and red armor.
33:11Hayden:Oh, okay.
33:12Tom:Because that's what I always like to do in Destiny, oh which I mean the armor, unlock stuff and moving around with the cursor the color things . It looks like it's straight out of Destiny 2.
33:23Hayden:Yeah, Although I think this is a little less clean looking Destiny. Everything looks very futuristic and very clean.
33:30Tom:Yeah, where this?
33:31Hayden:looks just gritty. This looks like this stuff is heavy.
33:35Tom:If I ripped off my pauldron I probably couldn't pick it up. That's probably how heavy that armor is. And then I've got the PvPp helmet. I got the plate as a tactical, I got the mohawk. I got the brush I don't have a whole lot of pvp stuff going up the center in my white and red armor with like skulls and little scrolls waxed onto my armor and chains and a cape I've kind of got like a navy blue coloring with like red crosses on my my guy, because I don't have black colored yet. You have the points, you just get it I don't have the points yet.
34:09Hayden:I locked everything for the Black Templar, but in that little thing for it there is no black color unlocked.
34:14Tom:Yeah, there is, I have it. What game are you playing?
34:20Hayden:I can show you. And the black Templar is like a little unlock thing. There is no color, it's just different emblems that you can unlock. And then you can unlock the special helmet that has the cross on the forehead.
34:31Tom:I have the helmet with the cross, okay, but I don't use that because I got the fin. I got the mohawk. Oh, you're so special.
34:36Hayden:I am. I have to say your guy does look cooler than mine right now. Yeah, he does. I don't have all that special stuff.
34:43Tom:I've been playing as the tactical in PvP.
34:45Hayden:You're like level 12 or 13 now.
34:47Tom:Yeah, I'm level 12.
34:50Hayden:Yeah, I think I'm 6.
34:52Tom:Then I'm like whatever my veterans see, I think I'm 6 or 7. Now for the tactical, I'm a sergeant as the bull arc.
35:00Hayden:I'm a chaos lord. Mostly I run in with a sword and shield or I play as the sniper that Hayden called dibs on when we texted him about it, yeah, when we told him all the classes.
35:06Tom:He's like I want to do that. It's like they have a sniper. Hayden, I'm like you can turn invisible. You have a big gun and a knife. But I'm better with that, I'm better than I am with the bull arc, Like you're not here playing it. Shut up.
35:22Hayden:You get to be who we let you when you come back, aiden, I do like being the what is it? The vanguard where he comes diving in with a big hammer.
35:30Tom:So there's six classes. You have tactical, assault, vanguard, bulwark, sniper and heavy. So tactical, you have a primary weapon which can be the bolt casters. I got the heavy bolt caster with the 45-round mag. Not as powerful as the 35-round , but the 45-round helps you really. It's an interesting gun so far because, like a lot of the other stuff, like you could just mag dump into people and kill them. Yeah, and I've unlocked one that's like an SMG carbine thing that point blank annihilates. Like I killed a bulwark with it , like he came to swing and I just went and mag dumped this dude like in his chest and his face and he was done before he swung and I was like, oh, at range, it's horrible.
36:15Tom:So I have that. And then you get the heavy pistol or the bolt pistol and then chainsaw sword, but you get two. You can hold two tactical grenades. So if you run over and you see grenades you already have one you can pick up too. I'm really liking the shock grenades because you get the flash bang effect. If it hits them like right in front of them.
36:34Hayden:I got to start using that and it slows them down, rinses their shields.
36:38Tom:Because a lot of the kills you got when we were playing that one game we, because a lot of the kills you got when we were playing that one game we were doing really, really good. They were kind of funneling at us. I lit them up with both so they were all blind and they couldn't move fast anymore or roll, so they just stayed like ah, and we're just shooting them all in the face.
36:54Hayden:It's like for the emperor as blood's flying everywhere. Now I have to say for the bull art class, you can use a shield and basically you're just impervious from that direction.
37:03Tom:Yeah, head on, you weren't getting touched.
37:06Hayden:The only problem is you don't get. There's like no assist points or nothing, and that needs to be fixed, because I held up my shield and blocked while Tom killed like eight people over my shoulder.
37:17Tom:Yeah, it was perfect. Mitch was just standing there eating it and then like there was like a lull and I was like Mitch, plant the flag, because you plant like this holy flag and it's an AOE thing for your team.
37:28Hayden:Yeah, for the Bullock class when your shields will auto-regenerate.
37:31Tom:Yeah, it's like boop, boop, boop. You're back, not your health, yeah. So Mitch is standing a couple steps after me, I'm standing above him a little bit to the right and I'm just dumping rounds over his shoulder at people at distance and the team's running by and I'm just holding the corner. It was like ah, and Mitch is just standing there getting lit up and not taking damage because of the shield.
37:53Hayden:And not getting any points. You guys should at least get assist points.
37:57Tom:The Bulwark's one of the hardest classes to fight against.
38:00Hayden:But it's also one of the hardest ones to actually use and kill anybody with.
38:03Tom:Well, you have to get close. Yeah, that's the problem. Or because the bulwark? You have a sword, you don't have a primary. You have your sword, you have a pistol and you have a shield.
38:11Hayden:Yes.
38:13Tom:You hold the pistol in your left hand with the shield, so when you aim, you extend the? Shield. No, the shield will absorb rounds for like half of your body. Oh well, like you have to shoot them on their right side or try to angle, and obviously if you're moving the rounds are going to go different places, so they're a pain to take on head on, and then if you get close, it's over because they're going to start swinging swords.
38:36Hayden:Well, I don't know, my sword didn't seem to hurt nobody half the time.
38:40Tom:I play as a bulwark because each team you can only have two of each on a team, it's 6v6. There could be two tacticals, two vanguards, a heavy and a sniper, whatever the combination you want to do, but the bulwarks are like the tough, especially people who know how to do it. And God forbid. There's two bulwarks and they're teamed up because they'll both come around the corner and block for everyone, and then there's heavies behind them with the freaking bubble shields.
39:03Hayden:I was going to say if you run into two bull arcs and a heavy, just run the other way.
39:08Tom:Yeah, you're dead, you're not going to win, just run the other way. You're just delaying the inevitable. So the assault class is that the jet pack class.
39:20Hayden:Or is that the vanguard class? The vanguard is the one with that big hammer. The assault, yeah, with the jetpack like the.
39:26Tom:Okay, so the assault class um has the grappling hook and you can grapple into anything and then, grab on the walls.
39:33Hayden:You can do whatever you want and that's like the one counter to bullocks, because you can grab the grapple, will stagger it yeah and you can and you fly into them.
39:40Tom:Yeah, and getting grappled is so annoying when it happens to you Because there's nothing you can do, no, you are just stuck, unless they kill them and then you just it's over . Yeah, because there's a couple times I've killed them point blank because their health isn't as good as a tactical.
39:53Hayden:Right.
39:54Tom:But the grapple does take away health when it spears into your chest. Yes, Then the Vanguard where you have a jet pack your chest, then the Vanguard where you have a jetpack, the big ol' hammers I was about to hot sauce.
40:08Hayden:Big hammers, big ol' hammers.
40:11Tom:Hayden's favorite show Big ol' hammers.
40:14Hayden:Yeah, you come flying in with basically the war hammer.
40:17Tom:Those dudes have gotten me so many times. You see all these walls in the map and there's windows that are busted out and all that stuff, but you don't know that they're behind it and they'll jet pack up and they can hover, go through it and then spear drop into your entire team behind it, or onto you and I feel like if you direct hit somebody with that attack, it'll kill them.
40:42Hayden:If you hit close it'll take a good bit of damage, but then once you hit, it takes kind of a second to recover before you can start swinging. So, you don't want to just dive into the middle of everybody.
40:51Tom:Yeah.
40:51Hayden:Unless you're going to land directly on someone.
40:54Tom:Yeah, they'll land on whoever's like the last person and then they just start swinging at everyone's butt. Yeah, but yeah, it's nice those swine. I hate them.
41:01Hayden:I hate those jetpack bastards and then after them you have the bull arc and then you have the sniper, which is the sniper. We've already talked about bull art the sniper.
41:09Tom:You can turn invisible for a limited amount of time.
41:12Hayden:It's like maybe 10 seconds 15 10, 15 between 8 and 10 that's not a long time, no but uh, I mean you could shoot while you're invisible.
41:21Tom:Yes, with a sniper right, you can shoot while you're invisible. Yes, with a sniper rifle.
41:23Hayden:You can shoot. I mean you can hit with the knife and everything. It's just you've turned visible when the timer runs back out, not just because you hit somebody.
41:30Tom:No, there is some. I've caught snipers. I'll turn and look and I'll see their gamer tag, but I don't see the body and I'm like sniper Blasting at nothing. And then, once you start hitting them, those shields will drop.
41:41Hayden:And the sniper has a powerful gun. I mean, I killed two people with one shot because I hit them in the head, but you only get like six shots at a time. Then you got to reload.
41:52Tom:But it's powerful. I watched. Aculite play as the sniper and I was like that's who this class was made for people like him, with uncanny accuracy and ability, and he's just taking dudes. He's like he was rushing objectives with it and like getting shot, but like double clicking so fast on people's faces Like they were just dying.
42:09Hayden:Yeah, I mean it hurts a lot of people quickly or you know when you hit them. But like I said it, and when you reload that gun, it takes a second to reload it and you can reload it and, like I said, you only get six shots and then you only have two bars of armor as opposed to three or four.
42:23Tom:You're one of the weaker health classes, but you can do a lot of damage and you can be invisible.
42:27Hayden:Right, so you either need to sneak up or shoot from a distance.
42:30Tom:Yes, and a lot of parts of the map have elevated positions.
42:35Hayden:Yeah.
42:36Tom:Where a sniper like you know he's going to be there, because I've come around the corner and looked up and saw the gamer tag but didn't see the person. I just start blasting and then the whole team just goes and stuff's exploding. Grenades are going flying now at this point, People are grappling. Chaos has ensued. And then you have the heavy. Heavy might be the toughest class we've ever fought because of that one dude.
42:59Hayden:Yes, there was some guy named Bunny or something. He killed us like instantly. That dude went like 20 and 2 against.
43:08Tom:like our entire team, like he would come around the corner and like it was like I'm shooting, like all of us are shooting this dude in the face and he's just melting every single one of us instantly. Yeah. I don't know if he had like a different LMG kind of gun, I don't know what kind of gun, but it starts out slow and then, as you hold the trigger, the rounds speed up.
43:26Hayden:Yeah, I mean it's basically like a minigun.
43:27Tom:Yeah, it's like Hosing people and they have the bubble shield which covers the front half.
43:35Hayden:Yeah, basically it's like half a bubble, half a sphere around you where it protects your front.
43:41Tom:And they have a lot of health.
43:42Hayden:Yeah, they're huge yeah, I mean it's good now. The drawback is you are slow and your melee basically you just have to swing the gun to hit them yeah, you uppercut with them it doesn't do. I mean it does damage, but it doesn't do as much as like the swords and the hammer and all that stuff for them headshots really matter yes, yes, they do headshots matter. Headshots matter, and when you're shooting the bubble shield, the more damage you know . The more you shoot them while the shield's up, the quicker it goes away. Bubble shield Because it has a timer, but if you're shooting it it makes it go away quicker.
44:14Tom:So the map design.
44:16Hayden:To me they all feel pretty similar, except for just different aesthetics to where they look different but, like you, pretty similar, except for just different aesthetics to where they look different.
44:22Tom:You have like a middle area of a map where it's just a mosh pit and then every game has been pretty much the same, where both teams just choose one side of the map to fight in.
44:32Hayden:Yeah, they just go around the outsides.
44:34Tom:Yeah, we fight around the outsides of the map and if it's Bastion we're fighting in the hallways. Normally around the center that's fogged out where you can't see nothing. I almost said it, I was so close Cathedral.
44:52Hayden:We mostly fight over there On the stairway side.
44:55Tom:Yeah the stairway side. We're both staircases from the opposite side of the spawn Because it's a big circle, so everybody pretty much only goes to the left or to the right and we just meet in the middle. Yeah, just grenades are exploding and it's just violence . Until you know whoever wins wins.
45:11Hayden:Yeah.
45:12Tom:And then I can't remember what the other map's name was, but there's three PvP modes. You have Annihilation, which is team deathmatch. There's like a domination. You have three flags A, B and C .
45:23Hayden:Yeah, and then you have like a hard point, especially you've got to capture a spot that changes. Yeah, like hard point.
45:30Tom:Yeah, for those from Call of Duty, I don't remember what they're called. Then you have operations. There's six operations.
45:36Hayden:Yep.
45:37Tom:But the unlocks for operations and PvP don't seem like they carry over. But then again I haven't played all the operations because all the armor unlocks under tactical .
45:47Hayden:Yeah.
45:48Tom:It says like win, or like do three operations, or win three games of PvP, or end the eternal war.
45:56Hayden:And that's something I still can't quite tell because , like, I've unlocked some stuff but I can't tell if it does transfer over or what I want to say. it does as far as like, if you use the what's it called, you have like your main armor, and then you can like right, bumper over to the special armors or whatever. I think those carry over, but not the main one. I can't remember what they're called though for the life of me . But going back to PvP, we have discovered that it works best when your team all goes the same direction at the same time as a group.
46:32Tom:Yes, if you spawn and the entire team just scatters, you guys aren't going to win. No, because that entire other team, one or two of those guys, are going to run into all five or six of them.
46:44Hayden:I mean, unless you're like a superstar, anytime it's one on two, you lose, because by the time you kill one, the other one's got your health down .
46:52Tom:So far I've taken two people at once and got them both.
46:55Hayden:Not often.
46:56Tom:Yeah, because they're both shooting at you. Yeah, because once you open up, that's it, everybody knows you. Yeah, because once you open up, that's it Like everybody knows you're there. And like that's when rounds start coming through grenades, and here comes the bulwarks around the corner with their stupid shields, and then you see the bubble shield in the back because here comes the heavy oh yeah. And you look, and your whole team's like nowhere near you and you're running out of ammo. You're out where are you? you bums, and then they're just running around underneath you. It's like get up here.
47:23Hayden:I just found out one thing as a sniper. What you do is, when they start chasing you, you run, you turn invisible once you get around the corner out of sight, and then you backtrack back past them because they'll keep running after you.
47:35Tom:Yeah.
47:35Hayden:That's the best way to do it, because unless they just happen to see your name tag or whatever Because if not, I mean they'll eventually catch you if you just keep running.
47:45Tom:Yeah, I've had people run after me.
47:47Hayden:The entire map.
47:48Tom:Like I'm running back to my team and they're just like they're still hot on my heels.
47:52Hayden:Yeah.
47:53Tom:And none of my teammates are shooting them.
47:54Hayden:And I found out a couple of times that when you're playing with another team it seemed, at least for me it seemed at least for me. It seemed like every time I would go in as the bullark to fight with my sword, my team would run away and it was just me. Yep, that's like. There's everybody here, somebody help?
48:10Tom:and like we were talking like we've had epic moments like I. We were playing on bastion. This wasn't I wasn't playing with you, I was playing by myself with just randoms and all of us were fighting in like the wooded part where it's like kind of elevated. We got like the mountain or like the big rocks and I'm out of grenades, I'm out of ammo now with my heavy bolt caster and like everybody's out of ammo, because we were all fighting there for like four minutes straight of just unloading but nobody really died, except like one or two people. So one dude comes running out and I'm shooting him and I run out of ammo. I was like screw it. I switched to my pistol and my uh chainsaw sword. I run out to meet him and I start swinging at him and he's
48:48Tom:swinging at me. And then I realized my whole team had changed, had charged after me, going through the melee modes, like I just see chainsaw swords and sledgehammers and swords and shields and just like their whole other team just comes out too, like it was just a big melee and blood's everywhere. I can't even, I don't even know what's happening on my screen. I don't know if I'm dead or not or if I'm dying. I'm just mashing lb and swinging as I'm cutting people in half for trying to, or I'm getting cut in half and I'm just like yeah I mean, it's a fun game and as far as like graphics , it looks really good like it does.
49:22Hayden:I was surprised. It's a fun game and as far as like graphics, it looks really good it does.
49:25Tom:I was surprised. It's shockingly good.
49:27Hayden:And then the amount of characters that will be like on screen, because, like the very first mission that you play in the campaign, you see like a hundred-something or probably even more than that, like little tyranny. Like a horde, yeah, and they're huffing it after you, and I thought that was just in the distance.
49:44Tom:Oh, when they're coming through, flying through at you when you're still in the ship before you crash. Well, I'm talking about At the very, very beginning.
49:51Hayden:I'm talking about that very last part of that first mission when, oh yeah, yeah, you know that's in the distance, that's just cinematic stuff.
50:02Tom:Nope, they're coming right at you. Yeah, you can actually like throw a grenade at them. You can kill them.
50:05Hayden:Yeah, start fighting them.
50:06Tom:They're coming For you, yeah, playboy.
50:09Hayden:It was pretty cool though.
50:12Tom:I thoroughly am enjoying this game, me too. Me too. I didn't think I'd like it this much.
50:16Hayden:It's made me like it enough to where I actually kind of like when we played, we did the trivia for Lord of the Rings . Playing this game has made me want to go and look, just like you looked at some of the YouTube videos that talks about who these? Characters are why they are the way they are.
50:32Tom:Wait, wait. Who are the different Primarchs and the Emperor of Mankind?
50:36Hayden:The Horus Heresy the Horus.
50:37Tom:Heresy. He was bad, Very, very bad, and I'm sure there's people who love Warhammer know way more than we do. Oh yeah, I'm sure who are like you guys have no clue.
50:50Hayden:But it is a lot of fun. It gives me a new appreciation for the Warhammer.
50:55Tom:I thought it was just like just a little miniature Dungeon and Dragon kind of stuff . Just write out dudes in cool armor.
51:00Hayden:But it's pretty, they're just right out dudes in cool armor just killing orcs or something in space. And I do like how I was on a Facebook page talking with some people about the characters and stuff they're like well, what about these characters that, like the main character, doesn't have a helmet, like couldn't he get shot in the head? Then he goes, he has the best armor of all. It's plot, armor, plot armor always protects.
51:21Tom:I thought that was funny the emperor protects, but so does plot armor. What else about this game? I mean, the graphics are really good. In subtle ways, Like if I spin and move, like the scrolls and stuff, they, you know, wave my mohawk, you know, the brushes, bristles, move, Like it's just little things there.
51:41Hayden:It's like it shouldn't be that cool, but it is and then there is one thing about this game that makes it better than many other games out there right now there's no micro transactions, no anything you want to unlock.
51:53Tom:You get through in-game currency, like you you earn money, yeah, and so you can spend it they do have a season pass which unlocks more stuff that you can get yeah but you, I mean it's the dlc stuff yeah, and there's supposed to be more dlc later on this year.
52:09Hayden:That'll be free, but I mean, it's just the fact that you can unlock whatever you want in the game just by playing the game. That, to me, is much better than many games out there right now and it's the game's not overly complicated to navigate. Yeah, like at all like you start and the game's not overly complicated to navigate?
52:24Tom:Yeah, like at all. Like you start in the battle barge, you go to the computer thing and that's where you can go to operations, to campaign or PvP or the Eternal War, the Crusade, or you run down the stairs through the hallway, through the red machine guy who drops down out of the ceiling and that's where you customize your guy yeah. And that's where you customize your guy yeah. And that's where you can look around and buy stuff. It's that easy. This game was made to be easy.
52:50Hayden:Now. Granted, they have had a little bit of trouble with the matchmaking, but I think that's just because they didn't expect as many people to play it as are on it. Yeah, there has been some server issues.
52:59Tom:Server issues when me and you try to play together, I never have it. When I play by myself. It's only happened like once or twice to me playing by myself, but with you it's just like every other game. You're getting kicked. It's like oh, you lost connection to the server.
53:11Hayden:Yeah, I'm like Tom, I only have so much time. Start it back up.
53:15Tom:I'm like hang on, I'm editing my armor.
53:18Hayden:I got to look cooler. But that's kind of our review. We both played that a good bit, tom more so than I. Yeah, I give that game like 10 out of 10. But do you have any news for this week? If not, I've got several. You can go ahead and read what you got. Well, the first thing I have, let's see Space Marines 3, is there anything? Well, sony announced the PS5 Pro.
53:42Tom:Yeah, I heard the price is outrageous or something .
53:46Hayden:I think it was like it's either $699 or $799. And what's it going to do? Well, it has no disk drive and it can't stand up straight because it doesn't come with a platform. But it has better, supposedly better system or better graphics or something like that for games, but not to the extent of an extra 200 and losing a disk drive right. It's like what is the point? I don't. I don't understand what the point of the extra 200 is if you're losing the disk drive as well, because that's less disk space as well. That's stupid. Um, anyways, needless to say, I will not be buying a PS5 Pro anytime soon, because there's a lot of people that, like other industries, that have laughed. It's like what are you doing?
54:30Tom:the next console we have to look forward to is whatever Nintendo is going to put out yeah because they're up next. Nintendo.
54:35Hayden:Switch 2 switched, that'd be a better name. The next Spider-Man movie they've announced switched, that'd be a better name. The next Spider-Man movie, they've announced the director, which will be the same person who directed the Shang-Chi movies, so that might be interesting.
54:52Tom:Whatever, mcu Spider-Man 4 will be, Was Tom Holland still playing Spider-Man though? Yeah, I didn't even see the Shang-Chi movie.
55:01Hayden:It's not bad, oh yeah , oh yeah. Sorry, I'll scroll through my news. There's a picture of the reaction to the PS5 for $700.
55:12Tom:Homelander, just like ugh the.
55:14Hayden:Happy Gilmore 2 movie that'll be coming out. They've been talking about that forever. You're still going to have Adam Sandler, and then now Julie Bowen and Christopher McDonald agreed that they'll both return Shooter McGavin. Shooter McGavin yeah, there's a new movie called Speak no Evil that's coming out. It's got James McAvoy where basically he plays like this really masculine, you know woodsy.
55:38Tom:Is it like the vacation movie?
55:40Hayden:Yes, he's like a woodsy guy.
55:42Tom:I guess a family is either in a bed meet on like vacation or something like they invite him and he's obviously up to something.
55:49Hayden:Yeah, like he plays that. You know he's like this great guy and all of a sudden, and then the next like really the whole MCU will take place will be the Mutant Saga. They'll start introducing more mutants which we've kind of talked about before HBO. Well, it says HBO original. So I don't know. But JK Rowling, the creator of Harry Potter basically said that this is happening. It's an open casting call in the UK for a Harry Potter TV show. It's like a reboot of the entire series, but it's going to be a TV show instead of a movie on HBO or Max.
56:36Tom:And with people who are going to be a little bit more grateful.
56:39Hayden:I guess. So we have the passing of James Earl Jones.
56:43Tom:Yes, Darth Vader has joined the force, or the old man from the Sandlot.
56:53Hayden:Netflix has a new Fear Street movie. They had a trilogy two or three years ago. They made the Fear Street thing . There's another one coming out. Oh for the new Venom movie that's coming out in October. They kind of showed a snippet in the trailer of possibly having Noel, which he was like a Thanos-level threat which this movie, the end of Venom, is alleged it's going to tie into the new Spider-Man movie. I don't know if it's an end scene or whatever, because the one piece of the symbiote that got left in. Yeah, that got left in the regular Marvel universe. Well, in the comics the symbiotes are like a hive mind across the multiverse. So whatever one symbiote knows, the rest of them know throughout the entire multiverse .
57:44Hayden:Well, gnoll is basically the god of the symbiotes and he's a creature that's basically galaxy level threat because he can control all the symbiotes by himself. And then he has the necro sword , which is the same sword that what was the guy from the most recent Thor movie.
58:12Tom:Oh, christian Bale's character, yeah, the God Slayer.
58:15Hayden:Yeah, that character. Basically he has that sword, which that sword can kill other gods. But yeah, it's pretty, pretty interesting. I would love for them to go using that character. Um, yeah, that's, that's kind of what he looks like there it's . If you don't know what knoll is , you can look it up. Uh, just type in knoll, k-n-u-l-l on marvel k-n-o-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l--o . Can-oo? Yeah, that'd be cool, let's see .
58:46Tom:Be an interesting direction for them to take it.
58:49Hayden:Mr McMahon From WWE. They're having a documentary, yeah. Documentary series About his rise and fall Basically on Netflix, comes out September 25th.
58:58Tom:What was his fall? Like what happened? What did he do?
59:00Hayden:Well, he's got some Sexual misconduct allegations about you know some of the female wrestlers saying you know , he would make them bigger stars if they did things. Now, granted, it's all alleged. At the moment there's no proof other than their word at the moment that's come out. So we'll see.
59:18Tom:Speaking of which, another streamer made a comeback . Oh yeah, dr, disrespect is back . The two-time is back, baby.
59:25Hayden:Yeah, yeah, because I mean he's got a point.
59:29Tom:He had like a six-hour stream, yeah, and people went for like the comments. But like all the comments were just like Doc is back, it was just like excited, it was like like wild. But a lot of she was like backtracking what they said, because I guess Doc made some good points.
59:42Hayden:Yeah, now the new Joker movie. I had a revelation they complained about, or the director said that this new Harley Quinn has none of the personality and quirks of you know Harley Quinn from the comics and other stuff. I was thinking what if in this movie the reason that he said that is because she comes in, because originally harley quinn is the joker's doctor like his? therapist yeah so what if she comes in as the therapist, harleen quinzel and then towards the end of the movie is when she starts, because basically the joker turns her into harley quinn by messing with her mind while she's there to be the therapist and then eventually he breaks her mind in their therapy sessions to where she turns into Harley Quinn as
1:00:24Hayden:infatuated by him. So I'm wondering if they'll do it like that, where for the majority of the movie she's just going to be his therapist but she starts wearing the makeup so that she feels he feels safe enough to talk to her, and stuff like that. It'd be an interesting way to go about it. Just just my thoughts, okay uh, you got smile too. would you ever see the first smile horror movie? Oh, it's kind of creepy because basically it's like it's a horror movie where the killer, like, if you kill somebody, they'll take, like they take up your persona, like to where the next victim is the only one that can see them, but they set this creepy smile and they just kind of basically it's almost like it Follows where they just keep coming after you, okay.
1:01:05Hayden:Let's see. That's pretty much it for the moment. I'll have to save some of our news for our next episode.
1:01:15Tom:Yes, yes, yes, can't blow our load in one episode. News. My name is Hayden.
1:01:27Hayden:But that's all we have for this episode. So anything else, Tom.
1:01:31Tom:No, just thanking you for listening.
1:01:33Hayden:Yeah, we appreciate you, all three of you. Oh no, there's much more now. Five yes, five no. We're doing pretty good analytic stuff, so I'm just, I'm just happy to you. I'm happy about it too.
1:01:47Tom:People good to hear that people are listening. Yes, but I think that's it for this episode of entertain this. My name is tom I'm mitch and we'll catch you on the next episode. Suck it, trebek. I want that on a shirt.
1:02:02Hayden:Suck it, trebek it's just such a dumb line. What's that bro? Celebrity Jeopardy from SNL three, the combination of the numbers three and five oh that's right when he's pretending to be uh.
1:02:19Tom:Turd Ferguson, yeah.